There is also a class of foolish people who sit quietly and try to keep their mind blank. They refrain from thinking of anything and call themselves ‘great.’ On account of their heretical view one can hardly talk to them.” -Huineng If the objective was a lack of thought then a rock would be greater than Mahavairocana himself. Perhaps mindfulness is less about lamenting the fact that we have a certain sense organ (the mind) and corresponding objects of the senses and trying to make these go away, and more about what happens when we engage with a thing, why we engage it, etc.

There is also a class of foolish people who sit quietly and try to keep their mind blank. They refrain from thinking of anything and call themselves ‘great.’ On account of their heretical view one can hardly talk to them.”

-Huineng

If the objective was a lack of thought then a rock would be greater than Mahavairocana himself.

Perhaps mindfulness is less about lamenting the fact that we have a certain sense organ (the mind) and corresponding objects of the senses and trying to make these go away, and more about what happens when we engage with a thing, why we engage it, etc.