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 Everything originates from something that is eternal because things cannot come from nothing.

If ever nothing were to have existed in the past, there would only ever be nothing. Since there is not nothing something must have always existed. That something is the origin of everything else that exists.

Either awareness is real, or it’s an illusion. If it’s real then it originates from whatever is eternal. If it’s an illusion there’s no point in discussing it.

So any discussion of awareness as a real phenomenon hinges on the ‘something that is the origin of everything else’ being aware. That ‘something……’ is more conveniently called the Absolute Truth. Srimad Bhagavatam is an 18,000 verse book, which identifies Sri Krishna as the Absolute Truth in the first text and then expands on that for the rest of the book.

SB 1.1.1 - O my Lord, Sri Krishna, son of Vasudeva, O all-pervading Personality of Godhead, I offer my respectful obeisances unto You. I meditate upon Lord Sri Krishna because He is the Absolute Truth and the primeval cause of all causes of the creation, sustenance and destruction of the manifested universes. He is directly and indirectly conscious of all manifestations, and He is independent because there is no other cause beyond Him.

Short version: Awareness exists because Krishna is aware.

Symhedonia: Learning to enjoy someone else's accomplishments

Sc of awe

 This is a rich, wide-ranging interview, but its core idea is actually quite simple—and surprisingly practical:

What is awe, according to Dacher Keltner?

Awe is:

“the feeling of being in the presence of a vast mystery.”

He breaks it into two ingredients:

• Vastness (something bigger than your normal frame—nature, art, ideas, even a powerful act of kindness)
• Mystery (something that challenges your understanding and makes your mind stretch)

🌌 Why awe matters more than we think

Keltner’s argument isn’t poetic fluff—it’s backed by research:

• Awe reduces stress and inflammation
• It activates the vagus nerve, helping emotional regulation
• It increases generosity and humility
• It reduces anxiety, depression, and even physical pain

In short: awe isn’t just “nice”—it’s biologically good for you.

🧠 The “small self” effect

One of the most interesting findings is what he calls the “small self.”

When you feel awe:

• You think less about yourself
• You feel more connected to others
• You become more open, generous, and cooperative

This doesn’t make people feel insignificant in a negative way—it’s often freeing and uplifting.

🌿 Awe is everywhere (not just in big moments)

Many people assume awe only comes from dramatic experiences like:

• Yosemite National Park
• The Grand Canyon
• Space or major life events

But Keltner’s research shows most awe is ordinary:

• Listening to music
• Watching snow fall
• Talking with a friend
• Seeing someone act with kindness

He calls this “everyday awe”—and it’s accessible to almost anyone.

🚶‍♂️ You can actually train yourself to feel awe

One of his experiments—the “awe walk”—is very simple:

• Take a 15-minute walk
• Pay attention to your surroundings
• Look for something vast or meaningful
• Let yourself feel curiosity and wonder

People who did this regularly:

• Felt less distress
• Showed more joy
• Literally framed themselves as smaller in photos (fascinating detail)

❤️ Awe makes us better people

One of the strongest findings:

Awe shifts us from self-focus → other-focus

Examples from his studies:

• People who looked at tall trees became more helpful
• People who experienced awe became less entitled
• They acted more cooperatively and ethically

Even more striking:

• The most common source of awe worldwide wasn’t nature or art
• It was “moral beauty”—witnessing human goodness

🌍 Awe is deeply social

Awe isn’t just personal—it’s collective.

It shows up in:

• Concerts
• Religious gatherings
• Sports crowds
• Protests

This connects to Émile Durkheim’s idea of “collective effervescence”—that powerful feeling when people move and feel together.

⚠️ The double-edged side of awe

Keltner is careful not to romanticize it.

Awe can also:

• Make people vulnerable to conspiracies
• Be used by cults or manipulative leaders
• Blend with fear, terror, or confusion

So the key question is:

“Is this emotion serving the greater good?”

📱 A modern problem: awe deprivation

He argues many people—especially young people—experience less awe today because:

• Screens shrink our attention
• Everything is instantly explained (no mystery)
• Less wandering, less exploration

Technology gives information—but kills wonder.

🧭 The big takeaway

Keltner’s message isn’t abstract philosophy. It’s actionable:

A meaningful life isn’t built only on achievement or happiness—it’s built on moments of awe.

And those moments:

• Are already in your life
• Can be cultivated intentionally
• Quietly reshape how you think, feel, and relate to others

If you want, I can  break this down into practical habits (like a daily “awe routine”) or  connect it to mindfulness, spirituality, or even productivity.

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BG 18.12 Kama desire x karma

 Here’s a clear paraphrase of Bhagavad Gita 18.12:

Actions produce three kinds of results—unpleasant, pleasant, and mixed. Those who remain attached to their actions experience these results, even after death. But one who has truly renounced attachment is not bound by any of these outcomes.

In simpler terms:
If you act with attachment, you inherit the consequences—good, bad, or both. But if you act with true inner detachment, those results no longer bind you.

Enltnmnt. Being light itself

 There’s no real distinction between awareness and enlightenment—they’re essentially the same.

At the same time, there is a distinction between enlightenment and a person simply being aware. It’s like the difference between light itself and someone perceiving it.

Enlightenment isn’t about seeing the light; it’s about being the light.

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 This is an essay by Erik Hoel reacting to Michael Pollan’s book A World Appears: A Journey into Consciousness. The core idea: consciousness research has stalled, and that’s becoming dangerous now that AI is advancing. Here’s a clear breakdown.

The main complaint

Hoel says books about consciousness all follow the same script: the same thinkers, same theories, same debates. He mentions recurring figures like:

• Christof Koch
• Giulio Tononi
• Antonio Damasio
• David Chalmers
• Alison Gopnik
• Karl Friston

These are “intellectual titans,” but the field hasn’t moved beyond them in decades. According to Hoel, consciousness research has become:

• theory-heavy
• lightly tested
• underfunded
• somewhat academic “career-maxxing”

Why he thinks this matters

now

His urgency comes from AI. He argues we currently cannot scientifically answer:

• Is an AI conscious?
• Does it feel anything?
• Does it deserve rights?
• Could we accidentally create non-conscious superintelligence?

He frames this as a civilizational risk:

• If AI is conscious → ethical catastrophe if ignored
• If AI is not conscious → risk of replacing humans with mindless intelligence
• Either way → we need a real science of consciousness

His key claim: progress is slow because of

material reasons

He rejects the idea that consciousness is “unsolvable.” Instead he says:

1. The field is actually young (serious work started ~1990s)
2. It has almost no funding
3. Too many theories, not enough testing

He gives a striking stat:

• NIH grants studying contents of consciousness (2007–2017): 5 total

His conclusion:

The field didn’t fail because it’s impossible — it failed because nobody seriously tried.

His proposed solution

Hoel is launching Bicameral Labs to:

• Compare theories directly
• Try to falsify them
• Eliminate weak ones
• Narrow down the field

He calls this:

• “field-clearing”
• “logical judo”
• “negative space” approach (define consciousness by ruling things out)

Example he gives:

• Two systems behave identically
• One theory says only one is conscious
• Ask: why?
• If no answer → theory weakens

This is basically stress-testing theories like engineering designs.

The deeper philosophical position

Hoel is pushing against three popular attitudes:

• “Consciousness is impossible to define”
• “It may never be solved”
• “It’s just subjective so science can’t handle it”

He calls these defeatist and says they emerged from lack of funding and progress.

The metaphor at the end

He compares himself to Ernest Shackleton — meaning:

• risky expedition
• unknown territory
• needs funding and collaborators
• urgency

It’s intentionally dramatic, but the message is:

The next scientific frontier after intelligence is consciousness.

The real takeaway

This essay is less about Pollan’s book and more a manifesto:

• Consciousness science is stagnant
• AI makes it urgent
• Too many theories, no tests
• Needs funding + coordinated effort
• He’s trying to start that effort

If you want, I can also:

•  explain whether Hoel’s argument is convincing
•  explain what “consciousness theories” actually differ on
•  explain how this relates to AI consciousness (like ChatGPT)