even body mind not in control of me "Sometimes illness is felt as a great insult, because we see that we are not able to control even our own body. The Buddha was once challenged in debate by Saccaka, a follower of Jainism who vowed to refute the teaching of not-self. In reply the Buddha asked Saccaka if his body (here called material form) was under his control: “When you say thus: ‘Material form is my self,’ do you exercise any such power over that material form as to say, ‘Let my form be thus; let my form not be thus?’”

even body mind not in control of me

"Sometimes illness is felt as a great insult, because we see that we are not able to control even our own body. The Buddha was once challenged in debate by Saccaka, a follower of Jainism who vowed to refute the teaching of not-self. In reply the Buddha asked Saccaka if his body (here called material form) was under his control: “When you say thus: ‘Material form is my self,’ do you exercise any such power over that material form as to say, ‘Let my form be thus; let my form not be thus?’”